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I was fascinated by the work of Prof. Walter Mischel with the kids and the marshmellows. The thought I had was we should be teaching this to the kids so they know explicitly the difference between the "grabber" and the "delayer" and in situations beyond marshmellows. We should also teach them about the impact of the study by telling them about the predictive power of this simple experiment.

What I also found fascinating was the power of modeling as a way to teach "delayer" habits. If we expand the idea, is it possible to model "learning"? Is it possible to model civility, peace, gentleness, caring, discipline, playfulness, creativity and other values we have for ourselves and our children? I think it probably is, but the institution as it is now constructed is injurious to many of these values. 

"Practice doesn't make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect." How interesting the idea of deliberate practice and the observation that ice time doesn't necessarily make skaters equal in ability. it is deliberate and specific practice that makes the difference in ability. I imagine that is true for educators as well—the number of years by itself doesn't mean mastery. Some have mentally quit—arresting their own development as a practitioner.

And the recipe for deliberate practice?
  1. Demanding full attention for brief intervals;
  2. Providing immediate feedback against a clear standard;
  3. Breaking mastery into mini goals;
  4. Prepare for setbacks by building resilience.
Finally, the idea of applying the ideas above to skillful interventions is terrific. As the authors indicate, "Many of the profound and persistent problems we face stem more from lack of skill (which in turn stems from a lack of deliberate practice) than from a genetic curse, a lack of courage, or a character flaw." Applying these principles above to schools we can see from our general lack of training and deliberate practice in conflict management, teamwork, fierce conversations, and the like—skills and protocols that could make a school better—are also generally missing from schools. No wonder people want to go into their rooms and shut the door.
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Skip Olsen
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I too loved the point that practice doesn't make perfect. only perfect practice makes perfect. Deliberate practice is emphasized greatly by many of our coaches, but then the same coach when donning their teacher hat forget what they know to be true. They assign 40 problems but don't give any feedback until a day or two later. Formative assessment practices are underutilized in our classrooms today.

I wonder how you provide opportutnities for deliberate practice in areas like conflict management, teamwork, fierce conversation, etc.  I think I may have been in teacher groups where we did this in a fellow teacher's garage drinking beer.  We had some great philosophical conversations which at times broke into powerful debates.

I am from Iowa and I will tell you that feedback is often given, but  not based on previously identified clear learning targets. Often it is intended to be practice, but rather turns into the game. Meaning we tell students the activity is a practice activity to build skill, but then we keep score. How many football games on Friday night are decided by points earned Monday through Thursday of the week?

 

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David Keane
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@ David, formerly knowns as Dean!!

How many football games on Friday night are decided by points earned Monday through Thursday of the week?

I think the sports analogy is quite appropros when it comes to formative assessment and deliberate practice.  Last spring I read Pete Maravich's bio and realized that this creative and artistic basketball player was a fanatic about deliberately practicing the fundamentals until they were automatic.  Making it look effortless on the day of the game is equally about purposeful drill and practice as well as innate ability.

@ Skip

I think your logic that because we haven't practiced healthy conversations and dialogue, teachers have gladly retreated to their isolation is quite sound.  This formula of improvement based on honing specific skills gives me hope that we all can build better schools by changing our stance from:  "You need to collaborate more" to "Here's how we collaborate.  Let's practice together".

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I think the solution for many of these 'softer' or more ambiguous skills is to pick one, try to break down and identify what effectiveness in that area might look like, and then repeatedly practice that skill in front of others, getting feedback after each iteration (this is what Japanese lesson study looks like in my head). There are 'life coaches,' 'presentation coaches,' and other types of non-athletic coaches that do this kind of stuff. We can learn from them how to think about this stuff...

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@Scott. I think that is a terrific idea. And building off of David's comment about conflict management, fierce conversations, and teamwork, it occurs to me that the idea of breaking down things is important. When I've been called into a school for conflict management, for example, things haven't been "broken down"—there is just a general angst. I think the same is true for embedding technology in schools—such a broad brush is used that the opportunities one sees when things are "broken down" are missed in the larger picture. Focus, focus, focus. This is very helpful.
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