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NCLB certainly has its detractors but one thing it has given us is an outcome that we are all
aiming to achieve.  The goal is to improve the achievement of all children.

There is much to be changed with NCLB but when I reduce it to its core it sets an expectation
that all children will achieve and grow in their achievement over time.  You might not agree
with what is measured or how it is measured....but the idea is to reach each child and "grow"
them.

Teachers have accepted that goal (before it was law) and have tried to "grow" their children.
They are doing the best they can....they are working extremely hard.  However, as the book
states it is more than hard work and doing your best it is doing the right thing.

The question for my staff is are we doing the right thing?  If raising achievement results is the
outcome we seek then what are the behaviors we need to impact?

For teachers I would argue that it is the instructional strategies that they use in the classroom.
Are teachers using the instructional strategies or behaviors that have been shown to the be the most
effective?  Marzano's work has tried to zero in on the strategies that have been shown via mult. research
studies to "grow" learning.  Do teachers use these strategies?  If new strategies are developed or studied that
show great impact in the classroom how does a teacher acquire and use those strategies? 
But these aren't the only behaviors that impact achievement. 

For students one behavior that
makes a big difference is being an active participant in the learning.  The tough part about this though is
what the teacher does or allows in the classroom has a great deal to do with the level of engagement
a student can experience in the classroom.  I believe all students want to learn and that sometimes as
educators the limits we create in the classroom for the sake of control often impede the engagement
and resulting learning of our students. 

Parents also have behaviors that drive the achievement of their children.  Is education valued and discussed
in the home?  Does the child have access to learning opportunities outside of the school day?  Does the parent
discuss and reinforce what the student is learning at school and offer additional experiences to reinforce?

- from the topic: NCLB as an outcome...

Recent Posts by marklee:

Re: Data Streams

August 1, 2008 by marklee

Dan-
ch 9's data streams sounded like a great idea, but I was struggling with ideas to use. I'm not sure how idea 3 above gets implemented but idea 1 & 2 are very powerful and just the kind of ideas I was lacking. Thanks for sharing.

Mark

Changing the Environment

August 1, 2008 by marklee

Changing Environments
As I read chapter 9 several questions kept recurring.
Is there anything about the physical environment of our school that might be changed in order to better allow some of the changes we have discussed? In thinking about the answer to this I have gone and ahead and decided to treat the school schedule as a part of the physical environment since it determines how teachers and students are placed throughout the day. I work in an elementary school where I see students for technology class in 30 minute blocks of time, once per week. Teachers have planning while I teach, thus we cannot plan together unless it is outside of the school day which many teachers (more and more each year) are less willing to do. This relatively short amount of teaching time restricts the types of projects I can do with the students on their computers. Ideally I would have longer blocks of time that would allow for both instruction and then application/creation on the student’s part. I have tried to shift some of the instruction to outside the school day by using online avenues (Blackboard). Unfortunately for the age students I work with school is still a physical building that closes at 4 pm. The only traffic I get from students hitting my course sites are those that are truly enamored by technology. Ideally I would be able to meld what I do to support the curriculum of the classroom teachers but they feel some of the some physical restrictions in that they must share technology resources (computers).

Affordable 1-1 technology will be a huge boon to the way schools do business with their students. Unfortunately even when the technology does become affordable our schools will not be ready for the sweeping change. I wonder if classroom teachers feel the same limitation of the schedule and the way we chop up the subjects into predetermined times. Ie All math learning will occur between 10-11 am. All science learning will occur between 11-11:45 am. Although there are so many tie-ins between the two subjects (as there are between reading and social studies) we continue to physical separate the subjects. Do teachers see this or is it something we have been doing for so long that we fail to notice it?

The authors continue to discuss the importance of reinforcing vital behaviors in chapter 9. While I’m not sure our school has agree to what the most vital behaviors are (we really should) these behaviors need to be reinforced in order to change the existing concept map of our teachers. My goal is to get teachers to try new, more engaging ways of teaching and to give children more opportunities to CREATE in the classroom as opposed to REGURGITATE. If our school/district leadership decides this is a vital behavior we must find ways to reinforce it. One such way suggested by the authors to change the concept map (try something new or different) is to surround teachers with a focused data stream that reminds them of the importance of these behaviors. With the proximity (or lack of) teachers have from each other (close the door and teach) how do we create such a stream and what information becomes part of that stream. I enjoyed the HP story but don’t see a school stopping business to do that. After all, we have 500 students to supervise. Contractually we can only require teachers to be together a certain number of minutes beyond the school day.
Interpersonal relationships are important to collaborative efforts, but in our building over the past few years less and less teachers even make their way to the staff room to eat lunch and visit. This subtle change over the years has lessened the cohesiveness of our staff.
I’ll be curious to read other takes on chapter 9.

Re: Rewards and Punishment

July 27, 2008 by marklee

Kim-
Can't agree with you more on "unintentional" rewards. I cringe when another tells me they can't wait to have summer off. Yes, summer is to recharge...but part of that recharge should be spent on new learning. I know there are problems with the merit pay system, but what is the incentive for a teacher to participate in summer development. Are we rewarding people for not doing PD in the summer and acquiring new skills to make them more effective in the classroom simply by not requiring it or making it part of a teacher's mission?

I saw you had a blog and checked it out. I was fascinated by your drawings summarizing Diffusion of Innovations and Influencers. What a great way to organize the ideas of each work.

Mark

Re: Reward Behavior Not Results

July 24, 2008 by marklee

Scott-

Sounds like your SMART goals from the excellent white paper you did for Microsoft a few years back.

Your five step process listed above is what schools should be doing to address their gaps in hitting those mandated achievement numbers.

Why aren't we (schools...not just my school) doing this on a wider basis? Is it just "old ways die hard" or dare I say it fear of doing something different or could it be a lack of knowledge to make it happen?

Teachers are splintered in how what they teach and how they teach it. The PLC brings everyone back to the same page and gives people the chance to share what works....ie tell the story!

I know teachers in many different local districts and not one uses the above 5 steps you list on a regular basis (if at all).

My own theory is that for most teachers teaching is still about the teaching....the performance, the act of relaying the information. In your steps it is about student learning...not just the act of teaching. Your steps couple the measurement of learning with determining the most effective pedagogy in order to benefit the individual students.

The use of formative measure (Inside the Black Box) have been shown to have great impact in growing student learning. If your steps are the right behaviors (or at least a great step in the right direction) why not find ways to reward those desired behaviors? And if you are to reward behaviors is it a public or private matter? I recall a number of years ago when the first teacher in our district achieved national board certification. The district made a huge deal of it and I was shocked because there were many teachers who resented this teacher for the recognition she received.

Mark

Professional Social Capital

July 15, 2008 by marklee

As I read chapter 7 I asked myself how much “social capital” was present in my school. As I reflected on the people with whom I work I recalled how supportive people are of each other with their actions. When someone is ill, dinners get made and shared with families and donations are made to help. Our group is tight.

Then I began to recall some of the failed change efforts in our district. Each change was embraced by a core group of teachers who had convinced the administrative team to move forward on the change.

However, “social capital” of the professional relationship between teachers wasn’t strong enough to make the change a reality for any sustained amount of time. The solidarity shared in successful change efforts in the book was not present in our school. The practice of Delancey’s residents “challenging each other” isn’t easily done in a school system. Too often teachers are islands of professional practice in that they plan alone, execute alone, and reflect (when time) alone.

How does a staff build the professional social capital about what needs to be done and build solidarity to ensure that all staff members are doing the “right” thing (which for people in education will always be debatable)? Teachers cannot bang pans outside another teacher’s classroom. Teachers rarely seem to know how or sometimes even what their next door neighbor is teaching.

Re: Can We Change Staff Development?

July 6, 2008 by marklee

Greg-
Your question made me think of my own PD experiences. The majority of it info disseminating (sit n get). I agree with your next layers which at some point have to become "do" focused. However, I don't think we do that in schools. We plan the PD, the PD is taught, but at least in my experience there isn't a "do" step....or even an expectation of "doing" often enough. Some of the most lasting PD has been when the admin has assigned "homework" or "application" work related to the "sit n get" session. I was surprised how many teachers resented that "assignment" or being asked to "do". And beyond being asked to "do" an admin or the building leadership (perhaps curric. committee members, etc) then have to dialogue with staff about the results of the "do" step. If we miss these critical steps it will never "stick".
Mark

Re: Can Professional Learning Communities (PLC) provide a basis for changing personal ability?

July 3, 2008 by marklee

Greg-
I think you make a logical point and logical assumption that a PLC can lead to new behaviors. Why seek new learning or knowledge if there is not a resulting behavior change? Do we join a PLC in order to just acquire additional information? I would think not although we might not say that up front. I would think most teachers participate in a PLC because it is the PD du jour or because they really have a topic they want to learn more about (or perhaps a combination of the two).
However, I wonder how many teachers seek PD purely because they are seeking a behavior change. I am participating in this book discussion not because I want to change my behavior but because I seek to change or at least influence someone else’s behavior.
I was a bit ahead in the book so took a bit of time off and started reading again today. Reviewing my notes on chapter 5 made me feel slightly unsettled as I began to recall BF Skinner’s work on operant conditioning and I felt a little uneasy. I’m wondering if anyone else feels at least a little uneasy?

Why change a "good" thing?

June 26, 2008 by marklee

The authors remind us in chapter 4 that in order to make something undesirable the new desirable we need to change a reaction. The way to do this is create new experiences and create new motives. This made me reflect on my own school setting. We are very high performing school district fortunate to have involved parents and active students. We are located in an affluent area and as in many affluent areas we have high test scores because our students have high ability.
My goal is to get teachers to use technology to make the learning experience more engaging for the students. I have a tough sell since our current measures say the students are succeeding and making their state mandated goals. For several years we surveyed the entire community about different parts of the “school experience” and had very good results across the board.
Some teachers are constantly ready to try new ideas, practices and tools in the classroom in the interest of raising achievement, engaging the students, and keeping themselves interested as well. However, for those “laggards” it is a tough sell since their experiences are positive i.e. high test scores. A teacher can simply say, “why would I change?”
As I read this book I am thinking of the laggard or even resistant teacher. Why would they change if their experiences are positive? I think reconnecting them to their own teaching and learning values would help. I don’t think anyone I work with went into teaching for the summers or so they could teach the same way every year. Rather I think they went into teaching because they love children and want them to develop and grow. There is so much information out there saying the children we teach are very different from those we taught even 8-10 years ago. Making teachers aware of those differences is huge as is reconnecting them to their original values. I think reinstituting a student satisfaction survey might also be a good step in the right direction.

Re: Teacher Change: Can they Do It? Is it worth it?

June 21, 2008 by marklee

Reminds me of the quote at the beginning of chapter 2: "It is not enough to do your best; you must know what to do , and THEN do your best" -- W. Edwards Deming

Many teachers I work with can literally do no more or give more time than they already are. The above quote (and David's above post) really helped me reframe the whole concept of what we do and the time we take to do it. I do think teachers are doing their best...however, are they doing what is right or best practice? That becomes the real question. Are we doing what we've always done just because that is our habit or the way we learned to do things? How much of what we do in the classroom is even still connected to what we believe about education and the values we associate with teaching and learning?

Re: Teacher Change: Can they Do It? Is it worth it?

June 21, 2008 by marklee

Hi Greg-
You make a great point....but I'd have to say that it is not often that we get near the type of conversation you are visualizing. The class takes place during the summer and almost of the teacher discussion is geared towards teacher behaviors and teacher skills. I might try to "sell" the work involved in creating these projects as being great for student engagement levels...but for teachers it is much more about coming to the understanding of "I can do this" in terms of the newly learned tools/skills. In an ideal situation I would have a class during the school year that would last weeks, months and would involve more "field" work....as in "now try this with your kids and report out". However, in the past teachers did not want to make that kind of commitment.

Re: Profound vicarious experiences

June 20, 2008 by marklee

Skip-
Great quote from Garagnon. I do think it is possible to create vicarious experiences in schools. We just have to take the time to do it. That might mean something else falls to the side or gets moved elsewhere. The story or vicarious experience is powerful. In your post you didn't think it was possible to have these experiences for teachers. I'm curious what change in behavior you are seeking. Can you share with us?
MarkLee

Re: Teacher Change: Can they Do It? Is it worth it?

June 19, 2008 by marklee

Hi Greg-
I've never thought of them as stories per se but there is plenty of sharing in the classroom...both informal and formal. At the midpoint or a bit earlier in the class teachers are asked to share where they are headed as they asked to be working on a independent project at the same time they are learning the new content I present. They also present at the end of the class. However, the real power comes in the informal sharing. This is the sharing that happens between other people in the classroom who they just happen to be sitting beside. Teachers who have had success with the technology will definitely tell their coworkers that "if they can do it"...anyone can do it. I hear that message all the time when teachers get a chance to work on these tech projects together or just interact with each other as they are working on their own projects. I can tell them they can do it, but in some ways I don't have the same credibility as a classroom teacher. I'm the computer teacher so of course I can do it. ;)
The "is it worth it" discussions are hard to quantify in terms of how much was learned but teachers will talk up the fact that the students enjoyed the projects, software, tools or whatever it is and that they were more engaged. Without engagement or even sufficient levels of engagement can students truly learn?

Teacher Change: Can they Do It? Is it worth it?

June 17, 2008 by marklee

Identifying the change I am looking for is somewhat of a challenge.  I have several in mind but realize I need to keep the idea focused.  I’ve pick the change that is embedded most with my job and that is for teachers to make better use of technology in their classroom to engage learners and to use technology to raise achievement.

Each summer I offer for credit courses in which teachers can learn how to use the tools we have available in our school and district.  I guess the focus of these classes could be to lead the teachers to answer question #2 (Can I do it?) with an answer of “yes, I can use these tools.”  However, we know that there is a gap between a teacher knowing how to use a tool and using it effectively with students in a way that enhances learning.


There are other behaviors that teachers need to adapt to besides just knowing how to use the technology (actually some of my best integrators aren’t real high end users).  A more important behavior and/or believe is the attitude to trust students to use the tools effectively.  It comes down to control for some classroom teachers….can the students learn more from using the technology than from hearing them speak about the objectives at hand?  Unfortunately I think most teachers would opt towards the speaking or verbal presentation of the content at hand….even though we know this a turn off to many students.  With the emphasis of our state achievement tests and NCLB teachers are spending even more time on the rote tasks and lessons.

Question #1 (is it worth it?) is a much more difficult question to answer.  Will students be more engaged and enjoy coming to school more when they are able to use engaging technologies.  Yes, I believe they will and I don’t think teachers would dispute this either.  However, raising achievement on our state tests is what really matters to the district’s administrators and I certainly understand that.  So the question becomes will a teacher take a chance with tools they know engage students and use them to try to raise achievement rather than rely on the traditional methods of lecture and practice activities?  Sadly it is a risk that is too great for most teachers to take.  Ideally we could test our ideas to see if they work and we can raise achievement….but once again, there are no control groups of students and no one is going to volunteer their kids as a test group because any results that were less than stellar would reflect negatively on the teacher and actually impact the schools goal of AYP and Value Added measures.

It is at this point that stories become important.  I need to find teachers that will take smaller risks in the form of projects that wrap into them multiple curricular objectives as opposed to the often isolated ways the objectives are taught.  Through these smaller technology enhanced projects I can begin to build convincing stories of success.  Although each project may not be a success it can still serve the purpose of showing teachers what doesn’t work as well as that it is okay to learn from our mistakes. 

Sharing the stories as well as the message that we grow with successes and failures will have to be a part of the principal’s role in our building.  The principal as evaluator will need to assure teachers that growth and change takes time and hard work and that their risks and extra efforts will be rewarded not penalized. Over time we can add to our collection of stories as our experience grows. 


Still “Is It Worth It” for teachers?  Doing something in a different way than they’ve done it in the past will require more effort and teachers will be going into somewhat unchartered territory which will make it even more uncomfortable for them.  Does teacher evaluation become a tool at some point to require change (even if at a somewhat slow rate)?  Does it become the principal’s job at some point to say based on the stories we know this works and we know that the students are more engaged SO you as teacher need to be teaching this way as well.  Does the principal need to find a way to make it NOT worth it to do it the old way?  At some point I believe admin does need to use teacher evaluation as a tool for behavior change.

NCLB as an outcome...

June 14, 2008 by marklee

NCLB certainly has its detractors but one thing it has given us is an outcome that we are all
aiming to achieve.  The goal is to improve the achievement of all children.

There is much to be changed with NCLB but when I reduce it to its core it sets an expectation
that all children will achieve and grow in their achievement over time.  You might not agree
with what is measured or how it is measured....but the idea is to reach each child and "grow"
them.

Teachers have accepted that goal (before it was law) and have tried to "grow" their children.
They are doing the best they can....they are working extremely hard.  However, as the book
states it is more than hard work and doing your best it is doing the right thing.

The question for my staff is are we doing the right thing?  If raising achievement results is the
outcome we seek then what are the behaviors we need to impact?

For teachers I would argue that it is the instructional strategies that they use in the classroom.
Are teachers using the instructional strategies or behaviors that have been shown to the be the most
effective?  Marzano's work has tried to zero in on the strategies that have been shown via mult. research
studies to "grow" learning.  Do teachers use these strategies?  If new strategies are developed or studied that
show great impact in the classroom how does a teacher acquire and use those strategies? 
But these aren't the only behaviors that impact achievement. 

For students one behavior that
makes a big difference is being an active participant in the learning.  The tough part about this though is
what the teacher does or allows in the classroom has a great deal to do with the level of engagement
a student can experience in the classroom.  I believe all students want to learn and that sometimes as
educators the limits we create in the classroom for the sake of control often impede the engagement
and resulting learning of our students. 

Parents also have behaviors that drive the achievement of their children.  Is education valued and discussed
in the home?  Does the child have access to learning opportunities outside of the school day?  Does the parent
discuss and reinforce what the student is learning at school and offer additional experiences to reinforce?

Re: Do you think of yourself as an influencer? Do educators?

June 14, 2008 by marklee

Do you normally think of yourself as an influencer? Is your answer different for either your professional or personal life?

After completing the first reading section I can't say I see myself as an influencer in my professional life as discussed by the authors.  Influencers are actively seeking to impact behaviors.  However, as a parent of 3 young children I definitely see myself as an influencer...I am trying to shape and refine behaviors on a daily (often hourly basis) and yes much of ends up being "after the fact" despite my previous best efforts.

Do you think educators see themselves as influencers? If so, how does this manifest itself in their behavior? If not, why not?

Educators are always trying to shape/impact the behavior of their students.  An effective educator is about much more than just content acquisition...rather a effective educator is trying to impact behavior that reaches beyond the content at hand.  However, I think when we talk about educator to educator relationships educators would see themselves as influences....in fact they are quite the opposite.  While a teacher feels they can have an impact on the behaviors in their own classroom they rarely see beyond their own classroom to impact the classroom of another teacher.  Teacher to teacher relationships are about professional respect and quite frankly distance.  Calling an educator "out" about a questionable practice as discussed in the Delancey example just doesn't happen in education.

 

 

 

 

Mark Richardson

June 11, 2008 by marklee

Greetings...
I am the technology specialist at Indian Hill Elementary in Cincinnati, OH. I follow Scott's blog and was excited to see he was leading a book group. Our building is undergoing some much needed change (although somewhat resisted by some) and I figured the discussions that result from this book group might be used to benefit the change process in our building. I also am trying to learn more about how PLNs function as part of some upcoming local inservice and I think this group is an excellent example of one more way we can keep learning.